was said on the sunday talk shows. >> the question of security is not being debated in any substantive sense, howard. >> a couple of things. first of all on the c.i.a. part of it, on the one hand at the beginning, i think the c.i.a. as they were developing the talking points, wanted to say hey, wait a minute, we warned you about that, we told you al qaeda was in there. and they said wait a minute, all of our people are in benghazi, we don't want our cover blown on that so they dialed back. that's way inside the beltway, nobody is going to follow that i agree with jonathan, the republicans were looking, second term, stasis in the presidency. let's get him for something. i think they also want a slow-motion swift boat the president. because they were irritated, the republicans were irritated beyond measure that a generation's worth of dominance that they had as the tough on crime party so to speak, in world afairs, had been taken away by the president, because he got osama bin laden. and because he had been tough. i think we need, we almost need like a scandal stock market here.